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Really? Well, hardiness is a complex thing....Keith,<br />Really? Well, hardiness is a complex thing. Lots of stuff that is "tender" in the UK is hardy for us here, even though the winter is so much colder. High summer temperatures sometimes seem to help plants mature and harden off before winter, and certainly snow cover makes a huge difference.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433418903218452909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-10442247646377953582010-11-10T12:00:25.781-05:002010-11-10T12:00:25.781-05:00Thanks for that! It's planted now, so it won&#...Thanks for that! It's planted now, so it won't hurt it to see what happens. Strange the conflicting thoughts on hardiness - the general consensus here in the UK is that it's borderline, with most losing their plants over the last hard winter.Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337680951744816607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-11892385862887012772010-11-10T11:55:04.709-05:002010-11-10T11:55:04.709-05:00Garden Lily,
I've had the same echium frustrat...Garden Lily,<br />I've had the same echium frustration -- I over-winter them, but no blooms. I'm thinking they need a cold period to trigger blooming, and I'm not keeping them cool enough over the winter. The balance between too cold and not cold enough... sigh.<br />Keith,<br />Good luck with your cold frame. 'Black and Blue' is actually pretty hardy, I've seen it over winter in zone 6. As for the tuber that fell off, I wouldn't hold your breath -- in my experience, S. guaranitica only makes new buds from the top of the mass of tubes, where the old stems were -- much as dahlias typically do. I've never gotten successful shoots from detached tubers, though I only tried a couple times.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433418903218452909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-36317513119559187252010-11-10T02:59:22.310-05:002010-11-10T02:59:22.310-05:00Having read your interesting blog it inspired me t...Having read your interesting blog it inspired me to make a decision on my Salvia guaranitica - I lifted it and put it into a pot in the coldframe. As I shook the loose earth off the roots a tuber dropped off which I potted on too - will this come to anything? I have no luck storing tubers any other way due to rodents!!Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337680951744816607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-52206914411386766552010-11-10T00:12:48.295-05:002010-11-10T00:12:48.295-05:00That is real commitment, to haul 10 foot banana pl...That is real commitment, to haul 10 foot banana plants into the basement!<br /><br />Funny enough, I've only ever tried with a number of echium pininana, and even though they overwintered in the basement, I never could get them to bloom the second year. Pretty discouraging.Garden Lilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07555471590488138155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-5023742160645450242010-11-08T15:03:57.824-05:002010-11-08T15:03:57.824-05:00Ryan,
Oddly enough, I got an e-mail just the other...Ryan,<br />Oddly enough, I got an e-mail just the other day asking about taking cuttings from echium so as to make them small enough to overwinter -- that post will be running next week. So stay tuned!Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433418903218452909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-38454475247341800502010-11-08T14:49:43.295-05:002010-11-08T14:49:43.295-05:00My window space it pretty small, I'll have to ...My window space it pretty small, I'll have to look into how small I can go with echiums.<br /><br />thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501301078027611367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-6934970244522264932010-11-08T14:29:06.337-05:002010-11-08T14:29:06.337-05:00Gnomic,
Excess moisture is a huge factor in winter...Gnomic,<br />Excess moisture is a huge factor in winter hardiness, especially for plants from deserty regions -- but in my climate, just keeping things dry isn't enough usually.<br />I overwintered my Echium candicans quite easily in a cool, sunny windowsill. It grew slowly all winter, and didn't even actually look too bad.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433418903218452909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-29421932956752867312010-11-08T12:56:45.934-05:002010-11-08T12:56:45.934-05:00any echium specific advice? I live in Zone 8 and ...any echium specific advice? I live in Zone 8 and I'm really interested in over wintering them here.<br /><br />another method for tubers that someone just recently told me. For tuberous stuff in pots, just tip the pot sidewise until it starts to sprout again in the spring. I read somewhere that it's not always the temperature that kills tubers and roots but water logged soil when it freezes. If that's true I'm not sure how applicable it is in zones colder than mine.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09501301078027611367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-85789930107687391022010-11-08T10:47:22.763-05:002010-11-08T10:47:22.763-05:00Susan,
I've heard that to and it makes NO sens...Susan,<br />I've heard that to and it makes NO sense to me. Maybe I should try it sometime and see if it makes a difference?Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433418903218452909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24631933.post-8009451479483017832010-11-08T10:22:52.504-05:002010-11-08T10:22:52.504-05:00Good info. One thing I've read in addition to ...Good info. One thing I've read in addition to this is that people store some plants upside down? I think it was in specific reference to Pelargoniums. What difference would storing them upside down make?Susan in the Pink Hathttp://inkandpenstemon.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.com